Powerful talk! There’s a great big huge need for discussions like this right now, and this one’s fantastic.
Just downloaded HELL BENT on Audible & can’t wait to listen. (Recently finished Fugelsang’s & Tia Levings books — educating myself on the worldviews driving these crazy times feels critical right now.)
Heads up…Thiel’s recruiting libertarians & Silicon Valley techies into a cult called Acts 17 Collective—which is painting people who want AI regulation & climate change activists as the “antichrist,” & pushing crazy plans for AI “gods”.
Checked out some of their online media & it seems like they’re jumping on the evangelical bandwagon & weaponizing religion to recruit others into an apocalyptic vision that conveniently targets anyone threatening their “progress.”
There’s never been a greater need to educate ourselves & others on Christ’s actual teachings. I thank u both!
Maybe instead of calling your guest a progressive Christian, we should just call him a Christian for the simple reason that he is practicing and witnessing to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Nationalism was never one of Jesus Christ’s teachings so it’s not Christian. Pretty simple
When children find their own way with the teachings of Jesus and have to live with the fact that their parents are worried about them going to hell, this Soulful Relating chant comes to mind, "Our Spirit repairs what our ignorance tears." When i chant it, i ask God to receive my fears and open me to feel divine love in my own body. My fears are that darkness will win, because God gave us free will and won't interfere. True is, and i have to remind myself here once again, that the divine love we need to resurrect with Jesus has already been given. We can let divine love, the way Jesus loves God and humanity, disarm hardened places in our hearts and transform the "bread of shame" and the "petulant spirit" that both keep us from receiving. About "not in our lifetime," Marianne:
Such a heartfelt powerful conversation. The heart is the key, and the HeartMath Institute's research validates this... their mission is to have "love go viral"
You commented, which I appreciate, that it is up to us to be the benders. You also noted that we are looking at an evolutionary transformation that goes beyond our lifetime, which includes discovering “the kingdom of heaven is within”.
Stable Planet Alliance’s League of Evolutionary Catalysts has well-crafted tools to enable regular people who care to act as ‘benders’.
The League is a community of practice for people communicating to help folks they know function better both emotionally and mentally, in the context of intending, with others, to contribute to the evolution of a compassionate ecologically sustainable world.
Thank you so much - very informative. I now understand much better why my son became this kind of weird christian after having spent his high school time in USA - oh how it breaks my heart . Befor he went to the states he had a good christian viewpoint with Jesus in the centre like a loving hero. Now it is brutality and shame in a mix . And these maga-people dare to call themselves christian. It is a time of horror and a passage we have to figure out together how to deal with love how to answer with firm love. Thank you Marianne and your guest.
As horrible as WWII was, I think that no one in 1935 could have imagined that the world as a whole could have rejected the historical acceptance of countries being psychopathic to each other to the extent that they did with the "new world order" of the UN by 1950.........I similarly see the POSSIBILITY that the world will reject the unspoken oligarch psychopathy of even the liberal (pro-corporate) politics of the present. I believe that most people (like me) only support the liberal, corporatist agenda because it is "not as bad" as our only alternative. (progressives being the exception)
What a very interesting conversation! I have had evangelical and very conservative extended family members who I have not really been able to understand, but his conversation has opened my mind about where they are coming from. And yes, I believe Donald Trump and all of the people he has surrounded himself with are no accident. They are a catalyst for clarity, compassion, honest and open hearted communication, and for conscious discernment rather than unconscious group programs. We have explored the land of ego that is disconnected from the wisdom of the heart for quite some time now, and it has been a troubled and often bleak land. To continue on this road is to walk into an extinguishing event. Spirit, God, the Universal Presence is showing us in no vague terms that it is time for a course correction. The God in us is rising to the surface to reconnect our minds to the deep and eternal wisdom of our hearts, to give us the tools to turn the page so we can write a new human story based in love.
It speaks to the horrors of today that one must actually remind people that Jesus is about love. His core commandment was to love one another.
This crisis will show us how we can show up to love each other.
I agree. The Jesus that I love is not a Christian Nationalist. He is the God of Love, Mercy, and Forgiveness.
Powerful talk! There’s a great big huge need for discussions like this right now, and this one’s fantastic.
Just downloaded HELL BENT on Audible & can’t wait to listen. (Recently finished Fugelsang’s & Tia Levings books — educating myself on the worldviews driving these crazy times feels critical right now.)
Heads up…Thiel’s recruiting libertarians & Silicon Valley techies into a cult called Acts 17 Collective—which is painting people who want AI regulation & climate change activists as the “antichrist,” & pushing crazy plans for AI “gods”.
Checked out some of their online media & it seems like they’re jumping on the evangelical bandwagon & weaponizing religion to recruit others into an apocalyptic vision that conveniently targets anyone threatening their “progress.”
There’s never been a greater need to educate ourselves & others on Christ’s actual teachings. I thank u both!
Maybe instead of calling your guest a progressive Christian, we should just call him a Christian for the simple reason that he is practicing and witnessing to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Nationalism was never one of Jesus Christ’s teachings so it’s not Christian. Pretty simple
Good point!
When children find their own way with the teachings of Jesus and have to live with the fact that their parents are worried about them going to hell, this Soulful Relating chant comes to mind, "Our Spirit repairs what our ignorance tears." When i chant it, i ask God to receive my fears and open me to feel divine love in my own body. My fears are that darkness will win, because God gave us free will and won't interfere. True is, and i have to remind myself here once again, that the divine love we need to resurrect with Jesus has already been given. We can let divine love, the way Jesus loves God and humanity, disarm hardened places in our hearts and transform the "bread of shame" and the "petulant spirit" that both keep us from receiving. About "not in our lifetime," Marianne:
Grace Happens !
When people rebuke me for enabling the poor by caring about them, my response is, "I will believe that when my heart tells me so".
Such a heartfelt powerful conversation. The heart is the key, and the HeartMath Institute's research validates this... their mission is to have "love go viral"
Hi Marianne,
You commented, which I appreciate, that it is up to us to be the benders. You also noted that we are looking at an evolutionary transformation that goes beyond our lifetime, which includes discovering “the kingdom of heaven is within”.
Stable Planet Alliance’s League of Evolutionary Catalysts has well-crafted tools to enable regular people who care to act as ‘benders’.
The League is a community of practice for people communicating to help folks they know function better both emotionally and mentally, in the context of intending, with others, to contribute to the evolution of a compassionate ecologically sustainable world.
http://www.evolutionarycatalyst.net
Smiles,
Andrew
Andrew.Gaines@evolutionarycatalyst.net
Looks great, Andrew!
I loved this conversation. It really got to the heart of the matter. Thank you Brian and Marianne.
Thank you so much - very informative. I now understand much better why my son became this kind of weird christian after having spent his high school time in USA - oh how it breaks my heart . Befor he went to the states he had a good christian viewpoint with Jesus in the centre like a loving hero. Now it is brutality and shame in a mix . And these maga-people dare to call themselves christian. It is a time of horror and a passage we have to figure out together how to deal with love how to answer with firm love. Thank you Marianne and your guest.
Thank you for this beautiful and lovely discussion.
As horrible as WWII was, I think that no one in 1935 could have imagined that the world as a whole could have rejected the historical acceptance of countries being psychopathic to each other to the extent that they did with the "new world order" of the UN by 1950.........I similarly see the POSSIBILITY that the world will reject the unspoken oligarch psychopathy of even the liberal (pro-corporate) politics of the present. I believe that most people (like me) only support the liberal, corporatist agenda because it is "not as bad" as our only alternative. (progressives being the exception)
We do help the poor.. that’s all we’re doing! We’re all going to be poor after this!!
We’re not doing them any favors; the Bible says teach to fish, not give fish.
The struggle is the journey. Proving grounds.
We’re creating blobs.. “idle hands are the devils playground” and all that- project housing!
Charity starts at home.
The poor have to help themselves, too!
#MARA
Some people are natural born hobo types. The kinds where momma says “you can’t marry that boy till he gets a job!”
We’re growing more of them; it’s a good paying gig
#early retirement lol
#never have to work again
I was a bonfire democrat until I moved to their principles are in place—
Oregon!
Fast talking street smart hustlers, filthy and filthy minded. #no rules people
#no qualms people
We’re allowed dignity against these people-
Imago Dei
No, the Bible does NOT say that. Jesus said give to the poor; nowhere did he put conditions on the giving.
THANKS SO MUCH TY TY TY
What a very interesting conversation! I have had evangelical and very conservative extended family members who I have not really been able to understand, but his conversation has opened my mind about where they are coming from. And yes, I believe Donald Trump and all of the people he has surrounded himself with are no accident. They are a catalyst for clarity, compassion, honest and open hearted communication, and for conscious discernment rather than unconscious group programs. We have explored the land of ego that is disconnected from the wisdom of the heart for quite some time now, and it has been a troubled and often bleak land. To continue on this road is to walk into an extinguishing event. Spirit, God, the Universal Presence is showing us in no vague terms that it is time for a course correction. The God in us is rising to the surface to reconnect our minds to the deep and eternal wisdom of our hearts, to give us the tools to turn the page so we can write a new human story based in love.