True! As long as we all agree the spiritual void exists in those on the left and right. Sinister methods have been whispered into the ears of all our leaders
Interesting. I also had a dream with a much younger Donald last week. I was visiting co-workers at a former workplace. He was sitting catty corner to my left and just behind me. I heard his gravelly voice and my first thought: avoid eye contact at any cost. Walk away. But something happened. He wasn't there to make trouble; just conversation. He said, "They're making too big a deal about all this. It's all going to work out."
It's unclear who "they" were in this, but the frame I came to see this dream in wasn't about denial or demagoguery: this was a higher reality. One where he hadn't been starved of love and twisted by Roy Cohn. One where he wanted to reassure.
The friends with whom I shared this dream said he couldn't be trusted. He was manipulating me. And of course, on this plane, that is what's happening.
But what if, as you point out, Marianne, we could cast things into the light? Step out on a new path? What if the power is in--and with us?
I'd like to think so. But on this level, we still need to do all we can to lift and enlighten, if we want to bring our "new democracy" dreams to fruition.
I am 82 we protested in 60s L.A then Dr king shot we kept pn, then a friend killed in a protest yet we continued. We made some headway foolishly thought we had succeeded. Now we are blamed for the problem according to the regime, WE VOTED FOR REAGAN!! It led us to today. Obsession with celebrities and MONEY. Those 2 things are how we now choose leader. And at the end of The Apprentice trump turned on Roy Cohen too. Evil has been invited in and wants to stay, just like vampires.. WE HAVE ALLOWED THIS. Hope we can stop it
Some good points. However, I don't believe we're projecting darkness onto him. He is spewing a dark, oily, greasy, dirty energy and evoking the same from inside of some people. They are then projecting it onto the planet as a whole causing more polluted spirits, as well as polluting the physical earth, air and water.
I was responding to this sentence: "His story is what I think of as Dark Americana. It’s a part of who we are, and we miss the point if we project all the darkness onto him." I don't think the darkness is being projected onto him, it's being projected from him.
In this case, projecting is when you don’t want to acknowledge something you don’t like in yourself or something dark in yourself so you see it in someone else or everybody else. You will see this darkness in Trump until you acknowledge it yourselves. I’m saying yourselves because I’m Canadian, not American.
Here’s where MW lost me…” Late Twentieth Century America was a celebration of the amoral, and the amoral will always lead to immoral consequences. That made us easy prey for Donald Trump, just as a young Donald Trump was easy prey for Roy Cohen. It makes all of us easy prey for the darkness of the world, which is the darkness in our hearts, which goes by many names.”
I was 12 when JFK was assassinated. And I witnessed and participated in some of the protests against all the horrors that followed. More assassinations, the atrocities of Vietnam, the draft, friends coming home in body bags. Massive social unrest, equal rights for minorities and women. Kent State. The corruption in the Nixon administration ending with his resignation. It was an extremely dark time in our country. But young people stood up and shouted NO FUCKING WAY!” Americans rallied and we salvaged our shredded democracy.
I was and I still am also quite aware of the various “dark forces” behind the various events, MIC, big pharma, big ag, the assault on our environment, the return to blatant racism, the unsustainable nature and hypocrisy of so called “free-market” capitalism, etc. Including now with P2025 been implemented, full throttle.
And obviously the social unrest during the 1960’s, early 70s was far worse than the amorality and decadence of the 1980’s and trump’s rise, under the tutelage of Roy Cohn, his notorious mentor. And right now we’re rapidly heading toward a much more consequential level of social unrest that could quickly lead to far worse outcome, under DJT’s dictatorial reign. An authoritarian regime.
What we’re seeing now is not trump’s phony facade. It’s the real power-hungry narcissistic sociopath behind the mask and he’s now bearing his teeth.
So I reject MW’s notion that “we all fell prey” and “we” are projecting “all” of it. That’s her OPINION and I have my own, which is in direct contradiction to hers. And I have always aspired to become a better version of myself, everyday. But sometimes ya just gotta call a thing, a thing, by its true nature.
And Mary Trump, his niece, is a clinical psychologist so she likely knows him better than anyone.
But even now, I do still believe in the IDEA, the ideals, the principles, the value of this country, these United States of America - An idea worth fighting for. But I outright reject that I’m so unaware, so simple-minded, so dim-witted, so naive or disengaged that I would somehow project this madman into being.
I believe tRump is a rich white boy racist. He first began his public and vocal criticism of Barack Obama's presidency in March 2011, by spreading the "birther" conspiracy theory. The false claim suggested that Obama was not born in the United States and was therefore ineligible to be president. The Obama campaign and independent fact-checking sites like FactCheck.org immediately and repeatedly debunked the claims, including by releasing Obama's "certificate of live birth" in 2008. Hawaii officials also consistently confirmed his birth in the state. So all the talk that tRump is a symptom which allows the rhetoric, policies, and behavior to resonate with, and gave a voice to, the frustrations and anxieties of a significant segment of society from the host of The Apprentice, where tRump cultivated a persona as a decisive, unscripted, and authoritative figure is true .
Yes, Trump has always been a privileged whiteboy racist bully, LONG before his insistence that Obama was born in Kenya. Remember the Central Park five, when he paid for full-page ads in NYC newspapers demanding the death penalty? So sure, his hateful racist rhetorical appealed to a segment of Americans who believe that minorities are scum, vermin, subhuman. And did he exploit that message during his political campaigns? Sure.
Do you know who else used that rhetoric?
“Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime used extreme dehumanizing language, frequently comparing Jewish people and other minorities to "vermin," "parasites," "rats," and "lice".
“ This language was a central component of Nazi propaganda, designed to strip victims of their humanity and justify persecution, discrimination, and ultimately, genocide.”
“The use of animal metaphors (such as Ungeziefer, the German word for vermin or pests) was a calculated strategy to portray Jewish people as subhuman entities that were dangerous to the "racial purity" of the German people, often described as a "plague" or "disease" that needed to be eradicated.”
“In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler utilized similar language, accusing Jews of "poisoning the blood" of the German nation, using biological metaphors to describe them as a fundamental threat.”
“Nazi leadership and its propaganda apparatus aimed to disable the moral resistance of the population and those carrying out the atrocities, making it psychologically easier to implement policies of segregation, internment, and mass murder. This rhetoric was not limited to Jewish people but was also directed at other groups deemed "inferior" or "undesirable" by the Nazi regime, including Roma, people with disabilities, and political opponents.”
He’s always been a racist/bigoted liar, a cheat, a thug, a criminal, a bully, a misogynist pig who preys on and sexually assaults women, a grifter conman who stiffs his employees and his lender. And now he’s a vindictive convicted felon and he’s the POTUS who’s out for revenge and by all indications, he’s not planning to leave anytime soon.
But I don’t believe that the majority of Americans agree with his views or his behavior. Nor do I believe he a SYMPTOM. Quite the opposite. I believe he’s a bloviating, self-promoting instigator. And that he has intentionally manipulated millions of Americans into believing he’s the second coming, their messiah, their retribution.
He has diminished us as a nation. And he’s now brazenly and intentionally using the same rhetoric as Hitler used, BY DESIGN. Because hellbent on collapsing and destroying our country and appointing himself as dictator.
“Donald Trump and the Central Park Five: the racially charged rise of a demagogue”
I agree. We’ve been going down this path for a long time, and he’s not the cause, but entered at the perfect time. I believe we will have to go down deeper into this darkness before we ascend into something more beautiful and loving, and I may not realize it in my lifetime (I’m 68), but I will commit to working to create it.
Thanks for publishing this message I found it very interesting.
FYI, I pray for President Trump and you every night. I have been working to have the President invite you to the White House for a meeting, hopefully with his entire Cabinet. You have the advantage from your ACIM training, and I trust those principles can yet transform the President's heart and those in his Cabinet.
I remember very well your Metaphysical Minute statement "The Love in me salutes the Love in you." This is so powerful, and I am sure a miracle will follow once you meet President Trump.
This is heartbreaking to see. From my perspective after 11 years here, the current political climate feels like a symptom of a deeper problem. I've met people who champion human rights and democracy publicly, but privately, they exhibit the same bullying tactics as the leaders now in office.
I know I can't change national politics, and I don't intend to. What I can do is focus on supporting people who have experienced abuse from family, partners, or their community.
While there are millions of people in this country, I can only control my own actions. My path forward is to forgive myself for having played along with these toxic dynamics in the past. My hope is to pay it forward (or 'pray it forward'!) by helping others recognize how manipulation works so they can break free from it.
If you're a U.S. citizen, you CAN help change national politics. People sitting it out is what got us here. I hope you'll take your wisdom and understanding into your role as citizen
Marianne, I am an U.S. citizen. Native to Montana. Residing in Boise Idaho, for 33 years. 70 years old. Living with advanced cancer, pain and fatigue. I have filed with the Idaho Secretary of State, as an Independent Candidate, for the office of U.S. Senator of Idaho, in the November, 2026 election. I don't want to be a Senator. I want to enjoy life. And... I am inspired, that we, the people, need to rise up and act in a sacred, beauty way, even though it means self sacrifice. Thank you for your inspiring messages and example.
I too dream. Not of President Trump. I dream of an evolution of human consciousness. I dream that guns, bombs, armored vehicles, technology in weaponry will not really matter in the coming shift. What will matter is that Spirit can and will pierce even the most armored, and hardened hearts, and military fortresses. That is a miracle. A miracle that is coming, soon. Tetey malkutah.
I was searching for something in my desk yesterday and found "The Great Invocation" on a card from my days as Unity Church of Dallas. I hadn't seen it for years. It ends with "Let Light and Love and Power restore the Plan on Earth." Amen.
Marianne, you need to get booked on Joe Rogan and share these ideas with him, more of what was received so well at the debates in 2016 when you first spoke about the ‘darker forces.’ I think he will listen. ღ
"The political ascent of Donald Trump was a symptom, not a cause, of our descent. He is a human manifestation of our spiritual void."
so true.
Amen
True! As long as we all agree the spiritual void exists in those on the left and right. Sinister methods have been whispered into the ears of all our leaders
I pray for all of them, even though they break my heart 🙏
I do, too...I send light to Trump every day.
Interesting. I also had a dream with a much younger Donald last week. I was visiting co-workers at a former workplace. He was sitting catty corner to my left and just behind me. I heard his gravelly voice and my first thought: avoid eye contact at any cost. Walk away. But something happened. He wasn't there to make trouble; just conversation. He said, "They're making too big a deal about all this. It's all going to work out."
It's unclear who "they" were in this, but the frame I came to see this dream in wasn't about denial or demagoguery: this was a higher reality. One where he hadn't been starved of love and twisted by Roy Cohn. One where he wanted to reassure.
The friends with whom I shared this dream said he couldn't be trusted. He was manipulating me. And of course, on this plane, that is what's happening.
But what if, as you point out, Marianne, we could cast things into the light? Step out on a new path? What if the power is in--and with us?
That's my prayer, anyway. May it be so!
Fascinating
Fascinating dream...maybe it was a message from his higher self that everything will work out for our country.
I'd like to think so. But on this level, we still need to do all we can to lift and enlighten, if we want to bring our "new democracy" dreams to fruition.
Thank you, Robin. We all need reminders and support. Your words give us one.
I’m glad it struck you that way, Rebecca. Mist keep our sights lifted and our spirits high!
I am 82 we protested in 60s L.A then Dr king shot we kept pn, then a friend killed in a protest yet we continued. We made some headway foolishly thought we had succeeded. Now we are blamed for the problem according to the regime, WE VOTED FOR REAGAN!! It led us to today. Obsession with celebrities and MONEY. Those 2 things are how we now choose leader. And at the end of The Apprentice trump turned on Roy Cohen too. Evil has been invited in and wants to stay, just like vampires.. WE HAVE ALLOWED THIS. Hope we can stop it
Thank you for all you have done and continue to do.
Amen to all, Marianne. Keep doing what you’re doing! It is helping me each and every day to live ACIM. THANK YOU!
Trump is a symptom. - Dwight Lee Wolter.
Some good points. However, I don't believe we're projecting darkness onto him. He is spewing a dark, oily, greasy, dirty energy and evoking the same from inside of some people. They are then projecting it onto the planet as a whole causing more polluted spirits, as well as polluting the physical earth, air and water.
I said we're projecting All of it. There's a difference.
I was responding to this sentence: "His story is what I think of as Dark Americana. It’s a part of who we are, and we miss the point if we project all the darkness onto him." I don't think the darkness is being projected onto him, it's being projected from him.
In this case, projecting is when you don’t want to acknowledge something you don’t like in yourself or something dark in yourself so you see it in someone else or everybody else. You will see this darkness in Trump until you acknowledge it yourselves. I’m saying yourselves because I’m Canadian, not American.
I wholeheartedly agree.
Here’s where MW lost me…” Late Twentieth Century America was a celebration of the amoral, and the amoral will always lead to immoral consequences. That made us easy prey for Donald Trump, just as a young Donald Trump was easy prey for Roy Cohen. It makes all of us easy prey for the darkness of the world, which is the darkness in our hearts, which goes by many names.”
I was 12 when JFK was assassinated. And I witnessed and participated in some of the protests against all the horrors that followed. More assassinations, the atrocities of Vietnam, the draft, friends coming home in body bags. Massive social unrest, equal rights for minorities and women. Kent State. The corruption in the Nixon administration ending with his resignation. It was an extremely dark time in our country. But young people stood up and shouted NO FUCKING WAY!” Americans rallied and we salvaged our shredded democracy.
I was and I still am also quite aware of the various “dark forces” behind the various events, MIC, big pharma, big ag, the assault on our environment, the return to blatant racism, the unsustainable nature and hypocrisy of so called “free-market” capitalism, etc. Including now with P2025 been implemented, full throttle.
And obviously the social unrest during the 1960’s, early 70s was far worse than the amorality and decadence of the 1980’s and trump’s rise, under the tutelage of Roy Cohn, his notorious mentor. And right now we’re rapidly heading toward a much more consequential level of social unrest that could quickly lead to far worse outcome, under DJT’s dictatorial reign. An authoritarian regime.
What we’re seeing now is not trump’s phony facade. It’s the real power-hungry narcissistic sociopath behind the mask and he’s now bearing his teeth.
So I reject MW’s notion that “we all fell prey” and “we” are projecting “all” of it. That’s her OPINION and I have my own, which is in direct contradiction to hers. And I have always aspired to become a better version of myself, everyday. But sometimes ya just gotta call a thing, a thing, by its true nature.
And Mary Trump, his niece, is a clinical psychologist so she likely knows him better than anyone.
But even now, I do still believe in the IDEA, the ideals, the principles, the value of this country, these United States of America - An idea worth fighting for. But I outright reject that I’m so unaware, so simple-minded, so dim-witted, so naive or disengaged that I would somehow project this madman into being.
I believe tRump is a rich white boy racist. He first began his public and vocal criticism of Barack Obama's presidency in March 2011, by spreading the "birther" conspiracy theory. The false claim suggested that Obama was not born in the United States and was therefore ineligible to be president. The Obama campaign and independent fact-checking sites like FactCheck.org immediately and repeatedly debunked the claims, including by releasing Obama's "certificate of live birth" in 2008. Hawaii officials also consistently confirmed his birth in the state. So all the talk that tRump is a symptom which allows the rhetoric, policies, and behavior to resonate with, and gave a voice to, the frustrations and anxieties of a significant segment of society from the host of The Apprentice, where tRump cultivated a persona as a decisive, unscripted, and authoritative figure is true .
Yes, Trump has always been a privileged whiteboy racist bully, LONG before his insistence that Obama was born in Kenya. Remember the Central Park five, when he paid for full-page ads in NYC newspapers demanding the death penalty? So sure, his hateful racist rhetorical appealed to a segment of Americans who believe that minorities are scum, vermin, subhuman. And did he exploit that message during his political campaigns? Sure.
Do you know who else used that rhetoric?
“Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime used extreme dehumanizing language, frequently comparing Jewish people and other minorities to "vermin," "parasites," "rats," and "lice".
“ This language was a central component of Nazi propaganda, designed to strip victims of their humanity and justify persecution, discrimination, and ultimately, genocide.”
“The use of animal metaphors (such as Ungeziefer, the German word for vermin or pests) was a calculated strategy to portray Jewish people as subhuman entities that were dangerous to the "racial purity" of the German people, often described as a "plague" or "disease" that needed to be eradicated.”
“In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler utilized similar language, accusing Jews of "poisoning the blood" of the German nation, using biological metaphors to describe them as a fundamental threat.”
“Nazi leadership and its propaganda apparatus aimed to disable the moral resistance of the population and those carrying out the atrocities, making it psychologically easier to implement policies of segregation, internment, and mass murder. This rhetoric was not limited to Jewish people but was also directed at other groups deemed "inferior" or "undesirable" by the Nazi regime, including Roma, people with disabilities, and political opponents.”
He’s always been a racist/bigoted liar, a cheat, a thug, a criminal, a bully, a misogynist pig who preys on and sexually assaults women, a grifter conman who stiffs his employees and his lender. And now he’s a vindictive convicted felon and he’s the POTUS who’s out for revenge and by all indications, he’s not planning to leave anytime soon.
But I don’t believe that the majority of Americans agree with his views or his behavior. Nor do I believe he a SYMPTOM. Quite the opposite. I believe he’s a bloviating, self-promoting instigator. And that he has intentionally manipulated millions of Americans into believing he’s the second coming, their messiah, their retribution.
He has diminished us as a nation. And he’s now brazenly and intentionally using the same rhetoric as Hitler used, BY DESIGN. Because hellbent on collapsing and destroying our country and appointing himself as dictator.
“Donald Trump and the Central Park Five: the racially charged rise of a demagogue”
‘He poisoned the minds of New York’
‘He’s still the same person’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york
https://perspectives.ushmm.org/item/propaganda-poster-jews-are-lice-they-cause-typhus#:~:text=share:,to%20look%20like%20a%20skull
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-compares-political-opponents-vermin-root-alarming-historians/story?id=104847748#:~:text=Former%20President%20Donald%20Trump%20vowed,the%20confines%20of%20our%20country.%22
I agree. We’ve been going down this path for a long time, and he’s not the cause, but entered at the perfect time. I believe we will have to go down deeper into this darkness before we ascend into something more beautiful and loving, and I may not realize it in my lifetime (I’m 68), but I will commit to working to create it.
Thanks for publishing this message I found it very interesting.
FYI, I pray for President Trump and you every night. I have been working to have the President invite you to the White House for a meeting, hopefully with his entire Cabinet. You have the advantage from your ACIM training, and I trust those principles can yet transform the President's heart and those in his Cabinet.
I remember very well your Metaphysical Minute statement "The Love in me salutes the Love in you." This is so powerful, and I am sure a miracle will follow once you meet President Trump.
Thank you so much for all that you do!
This is heartbreaking to see. From my perspective after 11 years here, the current political climate feels like a symptom of a deeper problem. I've met people who champion human rights and democracy publicly, but privately, they exhibit the same bullying tactics as the leaders now in office.
I know I can't change national politics, and I don't intend to. What I can do is focus on supporting people who have experienced abuse from family, partners, or their community.
While there are millions of people in this country, I can only control my own actions. My path forward is to forgive myself for having played along with these toxic dynamics in the past. My hope is to pay it forward (or 'pray it forward'!) by helping others recognize how manipulation works so they can break free from it.
Remember, you have far more power than you think!
If you're a U.S. citizen, you CAN help change national politics. People sitting it out is what got us here. I hope you'll take your wisdom and understanding into your role as citizen
Marianne, I am an U.S. citizen. Native to Montana. Residing in Boise Idaho, for 33 years. 70 years old. Living with advanced cancer, pain and fatigue. I have filed with the Idaho Secretary of State, as an Independent Candidate, for the office of U.S. Senator of Idaho, in the November, 2026 election. I don't want to be a Senator. I want to enjoy life. And... I am inspired, that we, the people, need to rise up and act in a sacred, beauty way, even though it means self sacrifice. Thank you for your inspiring messages and example.
“We will not remain the land of the free if we’re not willing to be the home of the brave.“
Even cockroaches hide when the light is shined on them! Why don’t you request a personal meeting with him?
Thank you Marianne. It's important to remember that not just Trump but all of them 'didn't come out of the womb that way.'
And if anyone thinks "How did we get here?", then they are just not willing to look.
I too dream. Not of President Trump. I dream of an evolution of human consciousness. I dream that guns, bombs, armored vehicles, technology in weaponry will not really matter in the coming shift. What will matter is that Spirit can and will pierce even the most armored, and hardened hearts, and military fortresses. That is a miracle. A miracle that is coming, soon. Tetey malkutah.
I was searching for something in my desk yesterday and found "The Great Invocation" on a card from my days as Unity Church of Dallas. I hadn't seen it for years. It ends with "Let Light and Love and Power restore the Plan on Earth." Amen.
Marianne, you need to get booked on Joe Rogan and share these ideas with him, more of what was received so well at the debates in 2016 when you first spoke about the ‘darker forces.’ I think he will listen. ღ
He's never been willing to have me on