I believe that’s why people voted for Trump. Only the rich and Elite run governments anyway, but the people voted Trump and his team as the only option for a Democratic governance that wasn’t bought out by the WEF, UN and WHO. At least Musk and Vance have an older generation with “poor” and oppressed experiences as opposed to most everyone else on both sides of the aisle.
But they don't. That's the point. Well Vance did (Hillbilly Elegy is a gorgeous book), but it's certainly not his programming now. Thinking the GOP is "about the people" was and is a total con
Never did think they were. Just thought the democrats weren’t. Yeah. Naive.They are all bought out. Good or not, unless one has a death wish they won’t step out of line. Roman Emperors aren’t the only ones who assassinate their opponents.
Sorry for the rant. I’m just reeling from friends and colleagues who I thought were “for the people” who started name calling and making me feel bad for questioning my party’s actions and rhetoric. I was always so proud to be a citizen of a country where we could agree to disagree and have enlightened discussions and learn from one another.
Honestly, I don’t think that any one Presidential team is going to make or break our country. It’s already broken, and we are approaching the end of 250-year cycle. The end of the US is coming and it’s not going to matter whether it was Harris or Trump in charge. (Actually it will make the Dems look better if we aren’t controlling Congress when the One World Govt takes over.)
I am just struggling because my stepmother who (legally) immigrated to the US 23 years ago from a Communist country says my political party (Democratic) is so far gone down the Socialist path, and our rhetoric resembles the Communist party where she used to live. The trauma that she lived through…I can’t imagine and it freaks me out that of the two political parties in the US, she says that the Dems will take us down that path. Please show me she is wrong😩
The Democrats are puppets. The Republicans are puppets. We don’t know who is ruling the world. I believe MAGA/MAHA are shining light on the corruption, first Dems, then Repubs.
You are stirring up fear and that is a disservice to everyone.
We all need to center ourselves, be available to family and friends, support our community.
I’m reading a book titled Wastelands:The True Story of Farm Country on Trial by Corbin Addison. It’s about bringing justice to landowners suffering for generations from the stench coming from corporate pig farming. At the end of one chapter, the author writes “. . . Tom Butler knows what the lawyers are up against. He knows that the industry will not reform itself. Only brute force will bring about change.”
Now, it’s our Government that will not reform itself. You know the DNC needs reforming. You want to do it from the “inside”. So did RFKJR. They Censored, Cancelled, Misrepresented and Lawfared him and forced him out.
Only brute force will bring about change.
Let the force be directed at the government machine.
There are a lot of actions we, as citizens, can take that do not involve brute force. Periodic days of No Consumerism, for example (February 28th is being promoted as such a day). Gathering at rallies to denounce this blatant power grab - Feb. 17th several protests will be held across the country for "Not My President's Day". Continuing to call our national level representatives as well as those in our state and local governments. Marianne is asking us to step up in any ways we are able and show our resistance to the menace of what is currently happening which will affect us all.
Not exactly, especially when we have the other option readily available, courtesy large business interests.
"Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around
We got the bubble-headed bleached-blonde, comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry"
It is just that now we have them out in the open holding press conferences or strutting around as party heads or department heads, assisting ICE raids, etc.
Electronic voting machine fraud is known since a long time. I don't understand why it is still being used and legal. It should be banned. It should be only Paper ballot hand counted.
US Lab Says Electronic Voting Machines Easy to Hack 3:08 min
1) So was flying in a metal tube or going fast on a contraption for which the roads were not ready in terms of design or lay out. The point I am trying to make is that there are certain instances that happen in the history from where there is no going back and electronic voting is one such thing as the world is in the process of progressing forward towards more and more digitization.
2) Does that mean your concerns about tampering with these machines is less valid, no, not at all, but it is something that can be argued by both sides. The world did witness that kind of argument with most of the elections anyway. I am not sure that the two times Trump won was all due to this kind of hanky-panky but not when the other side won. If it is true, then both sides would try to block the other party from doing it or try to do it themselves to cling on to the power, especially when they were in power and knew the election schedules, they would be more cautious about the designs of the other party or well prepared to tamper them for their own sake and not wait for the election results, only to complain about it after they lost the election.
I am not sure if the Democrats, as a party, even expressed any such doubt about the results. Moreover, the paper ballot is not devoid of such controversies either, remember the election of 2000?
3) I want to draw your attention to something of a bigger concern though. As you know, after the 2020 election results were published, the sitting president nonchalantly wanted a state to move the counter from one side to the other and declare him as the winner carrying that state. That is the kind of behavior one should be more wary of, coz that is blatant abuse and disrespect for democratic institutions that they want to manipulate with impunity, and to hell with the official version of whether they counted it by paper or electronically.
Anyway, that is how I think about this whole saga of EVM tampering, etc., trying to throw my perspective out in the open.
Did you watch the videos that I have posted? It doesn't look like. I am not talking about Trump or anybody else. I don't have time to say more. Please watch those videos. It is clear that Electronic Voting Machines are very easy to hack. The only safe way is papers.
My first instinct is to run to another country - maybe Norway..... then I think we can't leave Democracy to flounder, after all, we are her voice, and without us she will fade away. Thanks Marianne, our voices will rise.
Nope, you can't out run us, if we have learnt anything from history. I have been professing this to compatriots that want to listen, "Be ready and don't be like the Jews of 1938 in Germany, hanging against false hopes. The parameters and indicators are getting to line up pretty quickly. (This observation is serious though, it will become easy to project Indians as the enemy of state at some point of time in future, especially when MAGA supporters living standards didn't drastically improve by successive republican rule on this plank and we become the easy scapegoats, world has witnessed that too, in Africa, Fiji, Bangladesh, etc.)" So, I hope enough of us are well prepared to outpace the disenfranchised Americans so that we don't have to face similar situation (at the Polish border in 2022) where Ukrainians trying to escape the Russian onslaught attacked Indians trying to do the same. :-) :-)
Sorry Susan, for trying to dilute the seriousness in your concern, but to give it a witty twist is something that I couldn't resist.
You know this is truly very important- they have attempted to do away with the Magna Carta in Britain as well- it’s the same group of ne’er dowells- and yes people everywhere are waking up to the truth of real power vs force and it always begins manifests and ends with Love. Thank you Marianne!
They didn't do away with the Magna Carta, though. As I recall it was enacted in the 13th century. What happened was that it eventually became the cornerstone of shared power and democracy. As Dr. King observed, the arc of history bends slowly, but it bends toward justice.
You make some cogent points and are providing us some useful discussion topics as well as things we ought to be taking a hard look at. And I hope you're right about the energy of objection and resistance buidling is accurate. I feel it also, but there are a lot of people who have swallowed the Kool Aid, and while they might be starting to feel a bit faint, they haven't felt its deadly effect just yet. Such is the power of the human mind under a spell of hypnosis that's lulled them into delusion. But the mind can be overridden by the awakened heart. Caring for others as well as yourself is the result of such an awakening, as is a refusal to look away because looking away is more comfortable than facing up to reality.
Well the last crew sure didn’t have it. I felt betrayed by them. (I already could see the writing on the wall at primaries and voted for Marianne) I think both the Dems and the Republicans are “owned”. I am not going to accuse anyone of not having integrity just yet.
Another outstanding analysis of the current situation. Marianne keeps her eyes on the prize. We are in no worse a situation than Dr Martin Luther King and the others were at the beginning of the 60s. Yet they overcame and we shall overcome.
Nice writing … It’s scary how quickly we could loose our democracy … We have a Republican Congress for the next two years … “yes men” in the cabinet … right now the courts are our only recourse … but we have a Far Right Supreme Court … I guess all we really have is - Ourselves and The American People!
"...but a huge “HELL NO” is beginning to be heard." May I invite Americans to listen to your friends to the north? I am a Canadian and since Trump started verbally lusting after our resources with "51st state" insults, we've gotten really loud with HELL NO!!
I do not believe that the founders of our Constitution, believed that there would ever be career politicians. As such, these folks no longer seem to be interested in representing their constituents, but their careers and their wallets. Presidents and Parties on both sides of the aisle have helped dismantle the guardrails that protected this country. Anti-monopoly legislation has been ignored, industries, corporations and the military-industrial complex no longer have watchdogs. They have been given the authority to self-regulate. It seems like the foxes and weasels are guarding the henhouse.
My sincere apologies to anyone of our friends in the south. What dt did to us, mad us take action. We will only buy Canadian made products. I can buy a dozen eggs for 3.88 cdn.
My 81-year-old Dad is a Canadian citizen and still, has a permanent residence with a green card. My Mom is 81 as well. If they didn't have so many serious health issues I'd be renting out their house & moving to Canada for a while! Of course, none of us have passports as we didn't need them til recently. We only went to Canada to visit my grandparents every year til 2006 when my grandmother passed away. They also sold their 50 acres of land which I cried as a teen when they did this, they said, "Oh, you'll never want to go live there in the middle of nowhere" Acadeville, NB, and oh yes I would right about now!! I hate the cold weather and snow but in MA today it is 20 degrees and we got over a foot of snow and ice & it's crazy windy, sort of there without the joy ;) it was a joyful place to go to. :)
As always, your message is beautifully articulated, MW. Yes, democracy is supposed to be messy because we're human, but messiness doesn't render us powerless against the assaults from domestic enemies of our Constitution, from the likes of Trump and Musk who find the ideals to which we aspire highly inconvenient to their insatiable appetite for more wealth and power. And to that, we should collectively stand up and say Hell, No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you.
In two days, I will return to the U.S., from a visit to a functioning democracy, whose own model is the the United States of America. Filipinos, including the authoritarian former president, don't understand how a businessman can be handed this much power. They have had their share of corruption, but not anywhere near the level that is taking place in the U.S. now.
We need to regain our free press and put limits on election spending
Money in politics is the root of all this.
And only 2 parties running the show!
I believe that’s why people voted for Trump. Only the rich and Elite run governments anyway, but the people voted Trump and his team as the only option for a Democratic governance that wasn’t bought out by the WEF, UN and WHO. At least Musk and Vance have an older generation with “poor” and oppressed experiences as opposed to most everyone else on both sides of the aisle.
But they don't. That's the point. Well Vance did (Hillbilly Elegy is a gorgeous book), but it's certainly not his programming now. Thinking the GOP is "about the people" was and is a total con
Never did think they were. Just thought the democrats weren’t. Yeah. Naive.They are all bought out. Good or not, unless one has a death wish they won’t step out of line. Roman Emperors aren’t the only ones who assassinate their opponents.
Sorry for the rant. I’m just reeling from friends and colleagues who I thought were “for the people” who started name calling and making me feel bad for questioning my party’s actions and rhetoric. I was always so proud to be a citizen of a country where we could agree to disagree and have enlightened discussions and learn from one another.
Honestly, I don’t think that any one Presidential team is going to make or break our country. It’s already broken, and we are approaching the end of 250-year cycle. The end of the US is coming and it’s not going to matter whether it was Harris or Trump in charge. (Actually it will make the Dems look better if we aren’t controlling Congress when the One World Govt takes over.)
I am just struggling because my stepmother who (legally) immigrated to the US 23 years ago from a Communist country says my political party (Democratic) is so far gone down the Socialist path, and our rhetoric resembles the Communist party where she used to live. The trauma that she lived through…I can’t imagine and it freaks me out that of the two political parties in the US, she says that the Dems will take us down that path. Please show me she is wrong😩
And no one currently in politics is innocent.
There are good people there, they're not different than anywhere else
We don't have free press or free elections how would we know?
Yes!!!
Operation Mockingbird, CIA Media Control Program 3:13 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCfTIapds0
OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD: How The CIA Took Over The Mainstream Media
https://themillenniumreport.com/2017/07/operation-mockingbird-how-the-cia-took-over-the-mainstream-media/
To me the oligarchs control the media
Marianne, I am surprised at your stance.
The Democrats are puppets. The Republicans are puppets. We don’t know who is ruling the world. I believe MAGA/MAHA are shining light on the corruption, first Dems, then Repubs.
You are stirring up fear and that is a disservice to everyone.
We all need to center ourselves, be available to family and friends, support our community.
I’m reading a book titled Wastelands:The True Story of Farm Country on Trial by Corbin Addison. It’s about bringing justice to landowners suffering for generations from the stench coming from corporate pig farming. At the end of one chapter, the author writes “. . . Tom Butler knows what the lawyers are up against. He knows that the industry will not reform itself. Only brute force will bring about change.”
Now, it’s our Government that will not reform itself. You know the DNC needs reforming. You want to do it from the “inside”. So did RFKJR. They Censored, Cancelled, Misrepresented and Lawfared him and forced him out.
Only brute force will bring about change.
Let the force be directed at the government machine.
There are a lot of actions we, as citizens, can take that do not involve brute force. Periodic days of No Consumerism, for example (February 28th is being promoted as such a day). Gathering at rallies to denounce this blatant power grab - Feb. 17th several protests will be held across the country for "Not My President's Day". Continuing to call our national level representatives as well as those in our state and local governments. Marianne is asking us to step up in any ways we are able and show our resistance to the menace of what is currently happening which will affect us all.
Utterly frightening.
We don’t have a media. Why? Because it’s for sale and everyone is buying.
By free do you mean USAID funded?
Not exactly, especially when we have the other option readily available, courtesy large business interests.
"Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em all around
We got the bubble-headed bleached-blonde, comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry"
It is just that now we have them out in the open holding press conferences or strutting around as party heads or department heads, assisting ICE raids, etc.
Bring her back, we all will fund her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2f3aw9rk30
Good tune! Truth is spoken through song!!
America's Voting Machines Are Extremely Vulnerable to Hacking 5:13 min
https://youtu.be/BLtHW0G7DIs
Electronic voting machine fraud is known since a long time. I don't understand why it is still being used and legal. It should be banned. It should be only Paper ballot hand counted.
US Lab Says Electronic Voting Machines Easy to Hack 3:08 min
https://youtu.be/q7Oty69mQ80
Hi Mario,
1) So was flying in a metal tube or going fast on a contraption for which the roads were not ready in terms of design or lay out. The point I am trying to make is that there are certain instances that happen in the history from where there is no going back and electronic voting is one such thing as the world is in the process of progressing forward towards more and more digitization.
2) Does that mean your concerns about tampering with these machines is less valid, no, not at all, but it is something that can be argued by both sides. The world did witness that kind of argument with most of the elections anyway. I am not sure that the two times Trump won was all due to this kind of hanky-panky but not when the other side won. If it is true, then both sides would try to block the other party from doing it or try to do it themselves to cling on to the power, especially when they were in power and knew the election schedules, they would be more cautious about the designs of the other party or well prepared to tamper them for their own sake and not wait for the election results, only to complain about it after they lost the election.
I am not sure if the Democrats, as a party, even expressed any such doubt about the results. Moreover, the paper ballot is not devoid of such controversies either, remember the election of 2000?
3) I want to draw your attention to something of a bigger concern though. As you know, after the 2020 election results were published, the sitting president nonchalantly wanted a state to move the counter from one side to the other and declare him as the winner carrying that state. That is the kind of behavior one should be more wary of, coz that is blatant abuse and disrespect for democratic institutions that they want to manipulate with impunity, and to hell with the official version of whether they counted it by paper or electronically.
Anyway, that is how I think about this whole saga of EVM tampering, etc., trying to throw my perspective out in the open.
Did you watch the videos that I have posted? It doesn't look like. I am not talking about Trump or anybody else. I don't have time to say more. Please watch those videos. It is clear that Electronic Voting Machines are very easy to hack. The only safe way is papers.
Why Electronic Voting is a BAD Idea - Computerphile 8:20 min
https://youtu.be/w3_0x6oaDmI
My first instinct is to run to another country - maybe Norway..... then I think we can't leave Democracy to flounder, after all, we are her voice, and without us she will fade away. Thanks Marianne, our voices will rise.
Nope, you can't out run us, if we have learnt anything from history. I have been professing this to compatriots that want to listen, "Be ready and don't be like the Jews of 1938 in Germany, hanging against false hopes. The parameters and indicators are getting to line up pretty quickly. (This observation is serious though, it will become easy to project Indians as the enemy of state at some point of time in future, especially when MAGA supporters living standards didn't drastically improve by successive republican rule on this plank and we become the easy scapegoats, world has witnessed that too, in Africa, Fiji, Bangladesh, etc.)" So, I hope enough of us are well prepared to outpace the disenfranchised Americans so that we don't have to face similar situation (at the Polish border in 2022) where Ukrainians trying to escape the Russian onslaught attacked Indians trying to do the same. :-) :-)
Sorry Susan, for trying to dilute the seriousness in your concern, but to give it a witty twist is something that I couldn't resist.
Well said.
You know this is truly very important- they have attempted to do away with the Magna Carta in Britain as well- it’s the same group of ne’er dowells- and yes people everywhere are waking up to the truth of real power vs force and it always begins manifests and ends with Love. Thank you Marianne!
They didn't do away with the Magna Carta, though. As I recall it was enacted in the 13th century. What happened was that it eventually became the cornerstone of shared power and democracy. As Dr. King observed, the arc of history bends slowly, but it bends toward justice.
🙏 for courage and strength to shine Light on the darkness ❣️
You make some cogent points and are providing us some useful discussion topics as well as things we ought to be taking a hard look at. And I hope you're right about the energy of objection and resistance buidling is accurate. I feel it also, but there are a lot of people who have swallowed the Kool Aid, and while they might be starting to feel a bit faint, they haven't felt its deadly effect just yet. Such is the power of the human mind under a spell of hypnosis that's lulled them into delusion. But the mind can be overridden by the awakened heart. Caring for others as well as yourself is the result of such an awakening, as is a refusal to look away because looking away is more comfortable than facing up to reality.
Canada has shown the kind of integrity that Americans need to have.
I think most American citizens have it. It's the new American government that doesn't.
Well the last crew sure didn’t have it. I felt betrayed by them. (I already could see the writing on the wall at primaries and voted for Marianne) I think both the Dems and the Republicans are “owned”. I am not going to accuse anyone of not having integrity just yet.
Building a better world is why we are here.
Another outstanding analysis of the current situation. Marianne keeps her eyes on the prize. We are in no worse a situation than Dr Martin Luther King and the others were at the beginning of the 60s. Yet they overcame and we shall overcome.
Nice writing … It’s scary how quickly we could loose our democracy … We have a Republican Congress for the next two years … “yes men” in the cabinet … right now the courts are our only recourse … but we have a Far Right Supreme Court … I guess all we really have is - Ourselves and The American People!
In Oneness we thrive, in separation, we don't. Our energy contributes, be the director of yours.
"...but a huge “HELL NO” is beginning to be heard." May I invite Americans to listen to your friends to the north? I am a Canadian and since Trump started verbally lusting after our resources with "51st state" insults, we've gotten really loud with HELL NO!!
Thank you Marianne. In a sea of noise your words bring a brighter light to some pretty grim days.
I do not believe that the founders of our Constitution, believed that there would ever be career politicians. As such, these folks no longer seem to be interested in representing their constituents, but their careers and their wallets. Presidents and Parties on both sides of the aisle have helped dismantle the guardrails that protected this country. Anti-monopoly legislation has been ignored, industries, corporations and the military-industrial complex no longer have watchdogs. They have been given the authority to self-regulate. It seems like the foxes and weasels are guarding the henhouse.
My sincere apologies to anyone of our friends in the south. What dt did to us, mad us take action. We will only buy Canadian made products. I can buy a dozen eggs for 3.88 cdn.
My sincere apologies for your egg prices.
Marianne
And our apologies for what he is saying to you guys. I hope you know how many of us are horrified.
My 81-year-old Dad is a Canadian citizen and still, has a permanent residence with a green card. My Mom is 81 as well. If they didn't have so many serious health issues I'd be renting out their house & moving to Canada for a while! Of course, none of us have passports as we didn't need them til recently. We only went to Canada to visit my grandparents every year til 2006 when my grandmother passed away. They also sold their 50 acres of land which I cried as a teen when they did this, they said, "Oh, you'll never want to go live there in the middle of nowhere" Acadeville, NB, and oh yes I would right about now!! I hate the cold weather and snow but in MA today it is 20 degrees and we got over a foot of snow and ice & it's crazy windy, sort of there without the joy ;) it was a joyful place to go to. :)
As always, your message is beautifully articulated, MW. Yes, democracy is supposed to be messy because we're human, but messiness doesn't render us powerless against the assaults from domestic enemies of our Constitution, from the likes of Trump and Musk who find the ideals to which we aspire highly inconvenient to their insatiable appetite for more wealth and power. And to that, we should collectively stand up and say Hell, No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you.
In two days, I will return to the U.S., from a visit to a functioning democracy, whose own model is the the United States of America. Filipinos, including the authoritarian former president, don't understand how a businessman can be handed this much power. They have had their share of corruption, but not anywhere near the level that is taking place in the U.S. now.