Suffering is sometimes denied or bypassed spiritually and cognitively, and can portray a lopsided view of reality. Suffering is hardly an illusion. Having worked with refugees for over 20 years, I have witnessed the stories of genital mutilation, rape, unspeakable horrors and other aspects of what some call the shadow (euphemism) side of human beings. I have studied and practiced and taught the Course in Miracles for many years, and I have walked out of an ACIM class when I described the traumas I witnessed working with refugees and I asked the teacher {self-appointed) if he thought these refugees' trauma was illusion - and he said yes, it was illusion. I walked out and did not return for a long time.
I know there is a place for metaphysical interpretation of sacred scriptures, but that is only one perspective.
I noticed that Marianne started to interpret things differently when she entered the political arena in the U.S., and I was confused and relieved by her apparently new understanding of human behavior and the world scene. What I witnessed was Marianne's anger, rage, and righteous indignation at what she experienced as a woman running for president. Makes sense to me. Bravo, Marianne.
I also experience Marianne as an intelligent, thoughtful, well-researched thinker and feeler, who, if I remember correctly, went to Vietnam many years ago, and saw first hand what was going on in that country. Hardly an illusion.
I still stand on the rock of I Corinthians chapter on love, and without love most actions ain't worth nothing. My translation of that message is - love is the one thing left standing when all else has fallen.
So as we come into Holy Week, let us remember that after riding into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey (what wonderful irony - not a stallion, but a donkey), the first thing the Christ, does that Monday upon entering the city is not to say he loves everybody, but walks into the temple and flips the tables. Christ is passionate about confronting. Lord, show us what you want us to confront within ourselves.
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I'm looking forward to this, Marianne. ACIM had taught me a new way to experience the radcalism of love's power and possibility. It has been intetesting to watch my own relunctance to embrace love's radical power to healing and direction. I am teally happy you are doing this talk.
In addition to Passover and Easter, are they're any related traditions, holidays, beliefs or other observations in Islam that you can include discussion of in your online talk?And in any other religions, for that matter?Thanks!
But the talk is on Easter Sunday. Perhaps other holidays would be good opportunities to talk about the principles as they relate to Islam. Although, of course, she typically brings in a range traditions and faiths into her talks.
I see my question might not have been clear enough.
I'm not asking about similar principles in Islam unrelated to the Easter and Passover times.
I'm asking about traditions, holidays, beliefs or other observations in Islam (and/or other religions) that ARE related to Passover and Easter times.
Islam reveres and subscribes to many things Judaism and Christianity do, and I'd guess that might apply to the Passover and Easter times, and the notions surrounding those times.
Maybe I'm wrong about the Passover/Easter times/celebrations/traditions having overlap in Islam ... and that's why I'm asking :)
Great points. Coming back to the one choice we have between Love (and the phantom that is) fear.
There will always be fear when we do not know who we are, are totally identified with the physical body and egomind( loveless thoughts)
The death of ego through suffering ( on the cross =the body)is the resurrection of who we are ....love and light.
The I am is the way the truth and the light.
Love and peace to you on Easter.
Suffering is sometimes denied or bypassed spiritually and cognitively, and can portray a lopsided view of reality. Suffering is hardly an illusion. Having worked with refugees for over 20 years, I have witnessed the stories of genital mutilation, rape, unspeakable horrors and other aspects of what some call the shadow (euphemism) side of human beings. I have studied and practiced and taught the Course in Miracles for many years, and I have walked out of an ACIM class when I described the traumas I witnessed working with refugees and I asked the teacher {self-appointed) if he thought these refugees' trauma was illusion - and he said yes, it was illusion. I walked out and did not return for a long time.
I know there is a place for metaphysical interpretation of sacred scriptures, but that is only one perspective.
I noticed that Marianne started to interpret things differently when she entered the political arena in the U.S., and I was confused and relieved by her apparently new understanding of human behavior and the world scene. What I witnessed was Marianne's anger, rage, and righteous indignation at what she experienced as a woman running for president. Makes sense to me. Bravo, Marianne.
I also experience Marianne as an intelligent, thoughtful, well-researched thinker and feeler, who, if I remember correctly, went to Vietnam many years ago, and saw first hand what was going on in that country. Hardly an illusion.
I still stand on the rock of I Corinthians chapter on love, and without love most actions ain't worth nothing. My translation of that message is - love is the one thing left standing when all else has fallen.
So as we come into Holy Week, let us remember that after riding into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey (what wonderful irony - not a stallion, but a donkey), the first thing the Christ, does that Monday upon entering the city is not to say he loves everybody, but walks into the temple and flips the tables. Christ is passionate about confronting. Lord, show us what you want us to confront within ourselves.
Amen!
Genesis - Land Of Confusion (Official Audio) :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C19InkgElIE
Genesis - "Land Of Confusion"
I must've dreamed a thousand dreams
Been haunted by a million screams
But I can hear the marching feet
They're moving into the street
Now, did you read the news today?
They say the danger's gone away
But I can see the fires still alight
They're burning into the night
There's too many men, too many people
Making too many problems
And not much love to go 'round
Can't you see this is a land of confusion?
This is the world we live in (Oh, oh, oh)
And these are the hands we're given (Oh, oh, oh)
Use them and let's start trying (Oh, oh, oh)
To make it a place worth living in
Ooh, Superman, where are you now
When everything's gone wrong somehow?
The men of steel, the men of power
Are losing control by the hour
This is the time, this is the place
So we look for the future
But there's not much love to go 'round
Tell me why this is a land of confusion
This is the world we live in (Oh, oh, oh)
And these are the hands we're given (Oh, oh, oh)
Use them and let's start trying (Oh, oh, oh)
To make it a place worth living in
I remember long ago
Ooh, when the sun was shining
Yes, and the stars were bright all through the night
And the sound of your laughter as I held you tight
So long ago
I won't be coming home tonight
My generation will put it right
We're not just making promises
That we know we'll never keep
Too many men, there's too many people
Making too many problems
And not much love to go 'round
Can't you see this is a land of confusion?
Now, this is the world we live in (Oh, oh, oh)
And these are the hands we're given (Oh, oh, oh)
Use them and let's start trying (Oh, oh, oh)
To make it a place worth fighting for
This is the world we live in (Oh, oh, oh)
And these are the names we're given (Oh, oh, oh)
Stand up and let's start showing (Oh, oh, oh)
Just where our lives are going to
You know, I never really listened to the lyrics before. But, these are some powerful ones. Thanks for posting this up!
Now, this is the world we live in (Oh, oh, oh)
And these are the hands we're given (Oh, oh, oh)
Use them and let's start trying (Oh, oh, oh)
To make it a place worth fighting for
This is the world we live in (Oh, oh, oh)
And these are the names we're given (Oh, oh, oh)
Stand up and let's start showing (Oh, oh, oh)
Just where our lives are going to
Thank you for a great conversation. Love that there’s lots of room for Hope and Positivity.
Good People make Good happy
Love and Gratitude from across the miles 🙏
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I'm looking forward to this, Marianne. ACIM had taught me a new way to experience the radcalism of love's power and possibility. It has been intetesting to watch my own relunctance to embrace love's radical power to healing and direction. I am teally happy you are doing this talk.
I wish I could go back in time and live in a pre-industrial world 🌍
Thank you Marianne; for your true insight.
Yes, beautiful, thank you!
In addition to Passover and Easter, are they're any related traditions, holidays, beliefs or other observations in Islam that you can include discussion of in your online talk?And in any other religions, for that matter?Thanks!
But the talk is on Easter Sunday. Perhaps other holidays would be good opportunities to talk about the principles as they relate to Islam. Although, of course, she typically brings in a range traditions and faiths into her talks.
Thanks Elaine.
I see my question might not have been clear enough.
I'm not asking about similar principles in Islam unrelated to the Easter and Passover times.
I'm asking about traditions, holidays, beliefs or other observations in Islam (and/or other religions) that ARE related to Passover and Easter times.
Islam reveres and subscribes to many things Judaism and Christianity do, and I'd guess that might apply to the Passover and Easter times, and the notions surrounding those times.
Maybe I'm wrong about the Passover/Easter times/celebrations/traditions having overlap in Islam ... and that's why I'm asking :)
So looking forward to this. Thank you.