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Ann Bouchard's avatar

All women are witches, bitches and sluts to those in the patriarchy who fear women who gain influence. Its a projection of themselves and if the women cannot be tricked into self sabotage by men, that is a problem. Women have been hated and abused for 10,000 plus years. Its time women unite.

Women who abuse women, and smear them, feed into it.

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Joan Halgren's avatar

Ann, you've got the picture! It seems too many men are still behaving as though they are living in a cave and the tiger is at the entry so they must fight and be powerful because women are physically fragile. I think that thinking still holds true to today but the tiger is no longer at their door so, they don't know how to act. There's always a way if they will it to be.

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Ann Bouchard's avatar

Yeah its not all men, some are so loving.

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AMS's avatar

Marianne, Thank you. Blaming and shaming women is the first impulse. Women have been programmed by the misogynistic patriarchy to experience each other as competition. I see that reflected in some reactions to your essay. To fully take it in, one has to catch glimmers of and/or resurrect deeply buried memories dating back to pre-adolescence to realize how things began to change. As children, we were taught to look outward and held responsible for how boys, men, and girls and women objectified us and decided who and what we were before we knew ourselves.

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Joan Halgren's avatar

Yes, it seems AMS the test of being human is how well one responds to the external world while retaining one's essence that makes all true success possible.

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AMS's avatar

Thank you. As we learn and mature our capacity to see, shift, and offer ourselves, daughters, nieces, and friends the opportunity to honor ourselves and others as well as embrace the power and wisdom of the feminine and womanhood.

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Ellen In NC's avatar

Remember: Women Who Run With the Wolves.

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Aaron Waddell's avatar

Excellent work. Your words on “the untamed woman” inspired me to start work on on essay on the myth of the “Untamed Man.”

Men want to think they are free, wild, unable to be tamed. But they are trapped in a system that has stripped them utterly of their true, god-nature. Placed them in a caricature of masculinity that involves conquest and domination. Seeing women who are actually able to manifest their true nature brings out a deep-seated resentment that has no choice but to be projected.

Simply put:

They hate us, because they ain’t us.

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Joan Halgren's avatar

I appreciate your candid insights Aaron Waddell! A manly man doesn't have to be into conquest and domination to be highly valued. I hope younger men pursue actions and topics that can truly transform our planet: e.g. ways to reduce toxic soil, improve medical treatments, etc. There are so many ways they can excel! I wish for young boys to be encouraged in arenas that are fascinating and fun! Thanks for sharing. Joan

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Rosemary Camposano's avatar

Spot on.

In the one interview I saw with her on Bulwark, she came across as a woman who has learned precisely how to use her blondeness because using her brain wasn’t as efficient in serving her ambition. So, ambitious….yes. And that is always reframed by men AND women as Bitch.

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AmylouiseDonnelly's avatar

I saw the same interview I came to an entirely different conclusion.

My perception of Olivia right now is that she's been deeply traumatized by her experience is RFK Jr. I have an even deeper perception of him as a psychologically dangerous and profoundly selfish human being.

I also came to the conclusion, after seeing that interview, that she probably suffers from a particular addiction disorder. I don't think she's had a chance to identify it in herself yet and I'm pretty sure she's not getting effective treatment for it.

I do not experience Olivia as someone who has learned how to "use" anything. I think she is being used by her addiction and she will continue to be used by it until she can give it a name and find other people who have overcome it so she can learn from them how to do that for herself.

Olivia Nuzzi has my most profound empathy and my deepest prayers for her healing, whenever and however that comes to pass for her.

I'm glad she has personal access to Marianne williamson. I would imagine that Marianne could give her some good spiritual counsel... if that is Marianne's wish.

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Jesse Garcia's avatar

Now I’m intrigued. I’ve not heard anything about the subject or the person of interest, but I think that I will have to check it out. And as for your comments regarding the way people are treated in the media, or type people

Making judgments without actually having done any kind of research on a subject, I couldn’t agree more!

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Cathy Sysel's avatar

Key Cases:

Barbara Zdunk (1811, Prussia/Poland): Widely considered the last person burned for witchcraft in Europe, though the conviction was for arson after her death, according to some sources, with witchcraft accusations being the underlying cause.

Edward Wightman (1612, England): The final person burned for heresy in England, for anti-Trinitarian beliefs.

Janet Horne (1727, Scotland): The last person executed for witchcraft in the British Isles, burned at the stake in Dornoch.

Anna Göldi (1782, Switzerland): Executed by decapitation, often called the "last witch" in Switzerland, with her case ending official witchcraft persecution there.

Context:

While burnings for heresy ended earlier in many places, witch trials continued longer in some parts of Europe, especially Eastern Europe and German states, before fading out by the early 19th century. And started around 1200. So, 600 years of tradition do not die so easily. The loathing and fear of women is deeply rooted in the Greek portions of the “Western” civilization. It may continue for another thousand years. Who knows.

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Joan Halgren's avatar

I don't think humanity can even last another thousand years at the rate we are going. Earth has given us tremendous gifts and beauty and humans continue trample on it. I have never understood such lack of reverence for existence. We'll see if we can evolve--so far I am not seeing too much progress.

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BOB OBRIEN's avatar

Thank you Marianne for speaking truth. When a person tells the truth about themselves, their listeners get reminded of things they are not brave to share about themselves. That often leads to this type of lashing out. Olivia is one tough cookie. Thank God for people like you both that tell us truth. You are bright shining lights in the middle of gloomy times. Thank you, Thank you!

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dezy walls's avatar

As we say in Ireland, fuck the begrudgers, may she sell a billion copies.

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dezy walls's avatar

If the book is half as passionately written and fired up as your excellent article I want to read it.

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Joan Halgren's avatar

Marianne, these two points of yours are spot on: 1. "...there is nothing so offensive to a patriarchal status quo as an untamed woman." 2. "...they just burn you however they can." (I've been there too. I find the dislike of women by many, many men (some disguise it better than others) an ongoing mystery of life, along with my most destested word of the last ten years--'weaponization'--the MAGA buzz-word that I find tragic! Do most men really think everything in life requires warlike action, domination, and power? Something is deeply wrong on our planet, and it requires swift rebalancing within the natural order of things; otherwise, our species cannot survive brutality and lack of reverence for our beautiful planet that makes our lives possible.

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JEFF MANDON's avatar

Thank you for this thoughtful peace Marianne. I I know first hand contempt prior to investigation for I experienced it regarding you. I took the sneering doppelganger of you written into the play Jeffrey as the truth. Months later when I was in a bookstore I saw a collection of your tapes and bought it thinking that I had never really given you a fair Shake or in this case a fair listen before forming an opinion. So I did and you have absolutely changed my life for the better for the last 40 years. Think of how much I would have lost if I had never confronted my own ignorance. It's made far too easy for us to do this and you're very right to call it out. And I for one thank you from the bottom of my heart. So much love. Jeff mandon

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Peggy Klick's avatar

Wow. Yes, sister's.

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Frances's avatar

I cannot wait to read Olivia's book!!!!!

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Gordon's avatar

People seem are so predictable. Why publish a book with a very central figure is “exposed’’ at a time when that figure is hated by so many because of what his role is in addressing the health of Americans? Money?

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Joan Halgren's avatar

Money may be. But also, perhaps, a bit of truth telling too. I have not read her book but I've heard she's a tremendous, brillant writer.

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AmylouiseDonnelly's avatar

This is odd. Why did you send a second copy of this posting? Was there a flaw for those who sought access to read it or speak on it?

Sincere question.

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Marianne Williamson's avatar

I didn't mean to! Messed up with the app, I'm afraid.

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Brennan Patty's avatar

The “fickle finger of fate” strikes again. I do it often.

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Brennan Patty's avatar

The Fickle Finger of Fate”

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